Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/15/2006 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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*+ HB 421 FAST TRACK SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPS TELECONFERENCED
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= HB 273 PFD: DELAY PAYMENT FOR ALLOWABLE ABSENCES
Moved CSHB 273(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 421                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making  supplemental  appropriations,  capital                                                                   
     appropriations,   and  other  appropriations;   amending                                                                   
     appropriations;  making   appropriations  to  capitalize                                                                   
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:17:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL  FRASCA, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  MANAGEMENT &  BUDGET,                                                                   
OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR,  presented a  brief overview  of the                                                                   
supplemental budget. She reminded  members that the total was                                                                   
$13.5  million.  She stated  that  there  were two  types  of                                                                   
requests:   one   pertaining   to   available   funding   for                                                                   
unanticipated  requests,  and  the other  projects  that  the                                                                   
Administration  would like  to  start early.  She noted  that                                                                   
larger  requests pertained  to disasters,  which were  funded                                                                   
after their  occurrence;  she noted that  the second  largest                                                                   
area  was  for  judgments  and   claims.  The  Administration                                                                   
provided the Committee  with an amendment, which  would bring                                                                   
the total for  judgment and claims to $2.6  million. Judgment                                                                   
and claims are  not normally placed in the  supplemental, but                                                                   
were included  in an  attempt to  save on interest  payments.                                                                   
Corrections health care is the  second largest expenditure at                                                                   
$2.7  million and  is  tied to  an  aging population  in  the                                                                   
prisons. She  added that $1.0  million would be  appropriated                                                                   
for the  State phone system;  the appropriation  was included                                                                   
as a FY 07 capital expenditure.  She explained that there has                                                                   
been an increase in phone failures,  especially in Anchorage.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  pointed  out  that   two  amendments  have  been                                                                   
submitted since  introduction: $1.5 million in  federal funds                                                                   
for a  Kotzebue sand storage  building and the  Department of                                                                   
Law's amendment to judgments and claims.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 5 Law      Civil Division,                                                                                              
                   Deputy Attorney General's Office                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Judgments and Claims - actual amount is $2,621,985.48                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KATHRYN   DAUGHHETEE,   DIRECTOR,   ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES                                                                   
DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF  LAW,   noted  that  with  the  new                                                                   
interest rates  of 8.25 percent  a great deal of  money would                                                                   
be saved by  appropriating funds for judgments  and claims in                                                                   
a timely fashion.  The amendment would add $647  thousand for                                                                   
a total of $3.269 million.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:23:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kerttula  asked   for  clarification  on  the                                                                   
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CRIAG TILLERY,  DEPUTY ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT  OF LAW,                                                                   
referred  to a  spreadsheet and  noted that  some cases  were                                                                   
more costsly than  others (copy on file.) The  Sponaugle case                                                                   
($215  million) involved  medical malpractice  on an  inmate.                                                                   
Several cases  relate to personal injury related  to criminal                                                                   
sexual  assault   and  kidnapping  charges   brought  against                                                                   
Trooper  Daniel  L.  Scott. There  were  settlements  with  a                                                                   
number of women who were assaulted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Tillery also referred to the  Noon case ($284.5 thousand)                                                                   
pertaining  to a failure  to assist  those with  disabilities                                                                   
with the high school exit exam.  He stated that the plaintiff                                                                   
was awarded a substantial amount,  and that the State felt it                                                                   
was not prudent to pursue further consideration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:27:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tillery  reviewed  the  Bacolas   case  ($427  thousand)                                                                   
relating to wrongful discharge  of a whistle blower. The jury                                                                   
found against the State resulting.  The damages were reduced:                                                                   
first by the court and subsequently through settlement.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:28:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tillery  referred to  the  Bush  vs. Kromer  case  ($350                                                                   
thousand) as  a difficult case  involving a 5 year  old child                                                                   
in foster care  who was bitten by a dog, resulting  in severe                                                                   
physical and emotional damage.  He stated that there had been                                                                   
evidence  that  the  Agency had  previous  knowledge  of  the                                                                   
situation, and the Department  determined it would settle the                                                                   
claim.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  referred to a trend analysis  over the                                                                   
past few years in terms of claims  paid and questioned if the                                                                   
current level was consistent with previous years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:29:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Tillery stated  that he  believed that  the claims  were                                                                   
consistent over time, on an individual  case level. The total                                                                   
amount is higher than last year,  but lower than other years.                                                                   
Ms. Daughhetee added  that a ten year analysis  revealed that                                                                   
the current year's  claims were within the range  of the long                                                                   
term trend,  despite a number  of larger claims.  Mr. Tillery                                                                   
observed that there a number workers'  compensation claims in                                                                   
the  supplemental   request.   Recent  changes  in   workers'                                                                   
compensation laws will make a difference in the future.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In  response   to  a  question   by  Vice-Chair   Meyer,  Ms.                                                                   
Daughhetee  explained  that the  interest  rate  paid by  the                                                                   
State on judgments and claims  is set out in statute as three                                                                   
points  above   the  Ninth  Federal  Reserve   level.  It  is                                                                   
recalculated  by  the Court  every  year. The  interest  rate                                                                   
increased from  6.25 percent to  8.25 percent in  the current                                                                   
calendar  year. She  observed  that the  State  could save  5                                                                   
percent if  the claims  are paid (cost  of the interest  rate                                                                   
over  the average  interest  earning  rate of  the  Permanent                                                                   
Fund).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:32:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 1          Admin                            Capital                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Begin  telephone  system replacement  and  stabilization                                                                   
     phase 1  project in FY2006.  The FY2007 capital  project                                                                   
     request of $15 million for  this project will be reduced                                                                   
     by $1  million. The  State is  facing serious  issues on                                                                   
     the existing nearly 13-year-old  Private Branch Exchange                                                                   
     (PBX)  telephone  switches   in  Juneau,  Anchorage  and                                                                   
     Fairbanks that  support approximately  15,000 telephones                                                                   
     in  those  locations.  The  current  provider  will  not                                                                   
     support the system after April 1, 2006.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 4(b)       Fund                              Transfer                                                                   
      Information Services Fund                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Capitalize   Information    Services   Fund   for   FY06                                                                   
     implementation  of the telephone system  replacement and                                                                   
     stabilization phase 1 capital project.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ERIC SWANSON, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  ADMINISTRATION, observed that the  request was                                                                   
initially  included  in  the   FY  07  capital  request.  The                                                                   
Administration believes  that the telephone system  is not as                                                                   
stable  as it  needs to  be and  should be  addressed in  the                                                                   
supplemental budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
STAN  HERRARA,  DIRECTOR,  ENTERPRISE   TECHNOLOGY  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  ADMINISTRATION, explained that  Nortel Systems                                                                   
informed the State that it would  no longer be supporting its                                                                   
phone systems  in Juneau, Anchorage  and Fairbanks,  on April                                                                   
1, 2006. There are 14,000 phones  in these three communities.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There have been  recent outages in Anchorage. Due  to the age                                                                   
of the  systems regaining  service involved reassessments  of                                                                   
the phone  systems themselves.  The department would  like to                                                                   
migrate to a new system.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker asked whether  spending the  amount at                                                                   
this  time  would obligate  completion  of  the rest  of  the                                                                   
funding in the capital budget  request. Mr. Herrera could not                                                                   
respond to the  commitment of funds, but emphasized  the need                                                                   
for an immediate assessment to  determine a course of action.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker asked what  specific process  would be                                                                   
followed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a  question  by Representative  Hawker,  Mr.                                                                   
Herrara explained  that current contracts were  in place with                                                                   
some  agencies to  establish  building  site assessments,  to                                                                   
substantiate  the level  of need  and assist  in a  decision.                                                                   
Representative  Hawker  summarized that  the  funds would  be                                                                   
used to define need.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  questioned  if   there  were  money  in  the                                                                   
Information  Fund.  Mr.  Swanson observed  that  the  project                                                                   
would use general funds. There  is some funding from an FY 06                                                                   
appropriation that would be added  to the $1 million request.                                                                   
There are no funds in the Information  Services Fund (ISF) to                                                                   
capitalize the appropriation.  Vice-Chair Meyer questioned if                                                                   
there were plans  for a recovery fund to cover  future costs.                                                                   
Mr. Swanson observed that there  were preliminary discussions                                                                   
with the Legislative Finance Division regarding the issue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked if  the type of system  had been decided                                                                   
upon. Mr. Herrara explained that  the intent was to move to a                                                                   
converged technology:  combining the  phone, data,  and video                                                                   
systems,   which   are   currently   maintained   separately.                                                                   
Converging  the systems  into  one platform  would result  in                                                                   
costs savings. Voice-over-Internet  protocol technology would                                                                   
be  implemented. One  of the  components of  the 2000  failed                                                                   
contract  with  ACS  was  to deploy  a  voice  over  Internet                                                                   
protocol system.  The failure was not due to  the technology,                                                                   
but to the manner  it was deployed. Large entities,  all over                                                                   
the world,  use Voice-over-Internet  technology. Mr.  Swanson                                                                   
noted  that   the  costs  would   be  spread   among  various                                                                   
departments through charge backs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sections 2(a)      Commerce Office of Economic Development                                                                      
          $75  Statutory Designated Program Receipts                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The Office  of Economic Development is  hosting an event                                                                   
     at the  Boston International Seafood Show  that promotes                                                                   
     the  uniqueness  of wild  Alaska  seafood  on March  13,                                                                   
     2006.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAMUEL   THOMAS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,  COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC   DEVELOPMENT,  discussed                                                                   
trends in visitors  to Alaska and its impact  on the economy.                                                                   
Mr.  Thomas noted  that  the seafood  industry  brought in  a                                                                   
substantial amount  of income to the State.  He discussed the                                                                   
effect  of   farmed  salmon,   and  the  number   of  Alaskan                                                                   
fisheries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer noted  that the request  for the  seafood show                                                                   
was in the previous year's supplemental  budget, and asked if                                                                   
it  would be  a recurring  expense.  Mr.  Thomas stated  that                                                                   
another source  would need  to be identified  if it  were not                                                                   
included in the supplemental budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section 2(b)       Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute                                                                           
$395 thousand receipt support services                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Increase  RSS match  for  the Alaska  Seafood  Marketing                                                                   
     Institute's export  marketing program, which  received a                                                                   
     federal increase  in January 2006. Advance  notification                                                                   
     to public  relations contractors is  required, therefore                                                                   
     March approval is requested.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thomas  observed that  the request  is for $395  thousand                                                                   
receipt support  services and  would match $1.2  million USDA                                                                   
federal funds, which have already been promised.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  FLEMMING,  COMMUNICATIONS   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  SEAFOOD                                                                   
MARKETING  INSTITUTE, DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND                                                                   
ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT,  explained  that  the request  is  for                                                                   
authorization   to  spend   money  that   has  already   been                                                                   
collected.  Seafood   processors  pay  a   seafood  marketing                                                                   
assessment  for  ASMI's operations.  Authorization  of  these                                                                   
funds would  allow ASMI to  expend federal dollars  that have                                                                   
also been allocated for the current  fiscal year. Without the                                                                   
authorization,  ASMI   would  not  be  able   to  expend  the                                                                   
anticipated $800 - $900 thousand in federal funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   summarized   that  there   was   an                                                                   
additional federal appropriation  that was not anticipated in                                                                   
the  budget  and  asked  why the  expenditure  needed  to  be                                                                   
included in the fast track and not in the 2007 budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Flemming observed that additional  authorization was also                                                                   
being  sought in the  FY 07  budget. She  explained that  the                                                                   
industry would  benefit from  immediate marketing  efforts to                                                                   
support  sales  efforts  and  to keep  the  momentum  in  the                                                                   
international marketplace.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 3(a)       Corrections Out-of-State Contractual                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Timely   payments  are  essential   in  complying   with                                                                   
     contractual requirements  agreed upon for housing Alaska                                                                   
     inmates.  The increased prison  population has  mandated                                                                   
     the department  obtain additional beds  out-of-state, up                                                                   
     to a total  of 1,000 prisoners by year-end.  The current                                                                   
     contract is  written for  760 beds while  the department                                                                   
     estimates a  need for 850  beds by March and  1,000 beds                                                                   
     by June 30.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SHARLEEN    GRIFFIN,    ACTING    DIRECTOR,    DIVISION    OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF CORRECTIONS, observed                                                                   
that  the  Department  is  currently   over  their  emergency                                                                   
capacity  of 3,206; there  are currently  3,476 inmates.  She                                                                   
noted that the increment would  increase the number of out of                                                                   
state beds  from 760 to 1,000  by June 1 and would  be phased                                                                   
in.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Responding  to  a  question  by  Representative  Hawker,  Ms.                                                                   
Griffin stated that  the daily cost for beds  was $58.90. She                                                                   
explained  that this did  not include  the medical  services,                                                                   
probation officers or transportation costs.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Griffin thought  that the in-state bed cost  was $110.67.                                                                   
Offenders with  at least two  years of service  are generally                                                                   
targeted and are  sent out of state in large groups  of up to                                                                   
100 prisoners  on U.S. Marshall Jets,  or in some cases  on a                                                                   
Department  of   Public  Safety   jet  and  occasionally   on                                                                   
commercial airlines.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Responding  to  a question  by  Co-Chair Meyer,  Ms.  Griffin                                                                   
stated  that she did  not know  the frequency  and timing  of                                                                   
transfer dates.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:57:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 3(b)       Corrections Inmate Health Care                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The department is estimating  that they will potentially                                                                   
     run out of  funds available to pay contract  and medical                                                                   
     providers  as  early  as  March,  2006.  The  additional                                                                   
     funding is  needed to meet  the medical obligations  for                                                                   
     the aging  and increased  prison population and  for the                                                                   
     sharp  increase   in  the  number  of   inmates  needing                                                                   
     dialysis,  cancer  treatment,  and treatment  for  other                                                                   
     life-threatening  conditions, along  with the  increased                                                                   
     cost for providing those medical services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Griffin   referred  to  Section   3  (b),   which  would                                                                   
appropriate $2.6  million for  inmate health care.  There has                                                                   
been  $1.9  million  in  catastrophic   cases  to  date;  the                                                                   
Department anticipates that the  number will be $2.6 million,                                                                   
including general increased health care costs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker observed  that  increased health  care                                                                   
costs affected many aspects of state government.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Responding  to  a question  by  Co-Chair Meyer,  Ms.  Griffin                                                                   
explained the  inmate co-pay system.  Inmates are  charged $4                                                                   
per  visit   to  the   Department  of  Corrections'   medical                                                                   
practitioner.  Co-pay is  charged  if they  visit an  outside                                                                   
doctor. Altercations result in  a disciplinary hearing, which                                                                   
can result  in the  inmate reimbursing  the State of  Alaska.                                                                   
Approximately $80 thousand a year is collected in inmate co-                                                                    
pay.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked   how  much  was  spent  in   2006,  and                                                                   
budgeted in 2007.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Griffin  noted that the  catastrophic cases  changed each                                                                   
year,  with this  year's  cases  totaling $2.6  million.  She                                                                   
noted that  the FY 07 budget  contains an increment  for $1.3                                                                   
million for  rising health care  costs; this amount  does not                                                                   
account for future catastrophic cases.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:00:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 3(c)       Corrections Inmate Health Care                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Funding is  needed to pay three contractors  and several                                                                   
     fee-for-service  providers for  services rendered  prior                                                                   
     to  6/30/2005. These  providers have  not been  paid and                                                                   
     are charging  interest for  non-payment. Prompt  payment                                                                   
     would avoid further interest charges.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  appropriation would  provide  $755  thousand for  Inmate                                                                   
Health  Care. Ms.  Griffin acknowledged  that the  Department                                                                   
received  a  FY   05  supplemental  of  $500   thousand,  but                                                                   
explained that  remaining costs were not covered.  There were                                                                   
more catastrophic  cases. The State of Alaska  currently owes                                                                   
the Alaska Regional Hospital $255 thousand. Other out-of-                                                                       
state providers  are owed  $300 thousand  and $120  thousand.                                                                   
Other fees for service vendors are owed $80 thousand.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer asked why these  amounts were not included the                                                                   
previous year's  supplemental. Ms.  Griffin stated  that they                                                                   
occurred  after the  appropriation.  The State  of Alaska  is                                                                   
paying $85 thousand in interest on the amount owed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker questioned  how a  FY 05  supplemental                                                                   
could  be included  in the  FY 06  supplemental. Ms.  Griffin                                                                   
clarified that the  requests had not yet been  paid and could                                                                   
not be included as a ratification.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:02:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 4(a)       Fund Transfer                    Disaster                                                                    
Relief Fund                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Funding needed for:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       1)  2002   Kenai  Peninsula  Flood   shortfall  $160.3                                                                   
       2) 2004  Bering Strait Sea Storm -  additional federal                                                                   
     project  funding was  approved Jan.  2006, 25%  match is                                                                   
     required                                          $839.6                                                                   
       3) 2005  Spring Flood  Funding (Emmonak,  Alakanuk and                                                                   
     McGrath)                shortfall                 $553.7                                                                   
       4)  2005   West  Coast  Storm  (Nome   area)  $1,599.5                                                                   
       5)       2005      Southeast      Storm       $1,084.6                                                                   
       6) Less the unobligated balance of $93.9 in the fund                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  department  will  be  unable  to  continue  meeting                                                                   
     disaster related expenditures  until the supplemental is                                                                   
     approved.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  CRAMER,  DIRECTOR,  ADMINISTRATION  SERVICES  DIVISION,                                                                   
MILITARY AND  VETERANS AFFAIRS, noted that  the appropriation                                                                   
of $4,143 million would be a fund  transfer from the Disaster                                                                   
Relief  Fund. The  request would  cover  disasters which  had                                                                   
taken place from  2002 to 2005. He observed  that individuals                                                                   
are  eligible  for up  to  $5  thousand from  the  Individual                                                                   
Assistance Program if they can  demonstrate damage through an                                                                   
application  to the  Department. Some  of the  appropriations                                                                   
are matched by the federal government.  The Bering Strait sea                                                                   
storm  was declared  a federal  disaster  relief site.  Items                                                                   
allocated   under   FEMA   are  funded   at   75/25   percent                                                                   
federal/state.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:05:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Section 6(a) - (c)                                 Natural                                                                     
Resources                                                                                                                       
                   Parks Management                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Parks revenue  collection shortfall.  Need by March  31, 2006                                                                   
to maintain the planned service levels.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6(a) - (c)         Natural Resources                                                                                            
                   State Historic Preservation Program                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Change structure  to put Parks components  into Resource                                                                   
     RDU  to help  maintain  the  planned service  levels  in                                                                   
     State Parks. Need by March 31, 2006.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6(a) - (c)         Natural Resources                                                                                            
                   Parks Management                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Change structure  to put Parks components  into Resource                                                                   
     RDU  to help  maintain  the  planned service  levels  in                                                                   
     State Parks. Need by March 31, 2006.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6(a) - (c)         Natural Resources                                                                                            
                   Parks and Recreation Access                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Change structure to put Parks components into Resource                                                                     
     RDU to help maintain the planned service levels in                                                                         
     State Parks. Need by March 31, 2006.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
NICO  BUS,   ACTING  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL  RESOURCES, explained  that                                                                   
the Division of  Parks has a revenue shortfall.  Their budget                                                                   
required  them to  collect $2.3  million  in parks  receipts;                                                                   
they are  projected to collect  $1.7 million.  The Department                                                                   
has worked  to keep  all the  parks open.  The request  would                                                                   
switch  $350  thousand  in  receipts  supported  services  to                                                                   
general  funds.   The  agency   has  implemented   efficiency                                                                   
measures. He  observed that the  request would allow  them to                                                                   
utilize any lapsed funds by changing appropriation lines.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:07:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  asked which services would  be reduced                                                                   
if the supplemental was not approved.  Mr. Bus responded that                                                                   
the aim would to  keep all parks open, but  to reduce service                                                                   
periods.  Impacts would  be spread throughout  the State.  He                                                                   
spoke   further    of   deferred    financial   losses    and                                                                   
reorganization.  Service would  be  reduced in  26 parks  and                                                                   
limited  in  another  36 park  units.  Representative  Hawker                                                                   
requested a  detailed description and accounting  of specific                                                                   
consequences. Mr. Bus noted that  union requirements affected                                                                   
their decisions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker referred to  the restructuring  of the                                                                   
RDU  components.   He   questioned  if   it  would   be  more                                                                   
appropriate  to request  increments and  decrements to  shift                                                                   
funds rather than  restructuring the RDU component  levels of                                                                   
the  budget.  Mr.  Bus  observed  that  the  issue  would  be                                                                   
discussed in Subcommittee and  explained the reasoning behind                                                                   
the  request.  He observed  that  additional  money could  be                                                                   
available  in  June.  The  Division of  Parks  was  asked  to                                                                   
implement  all   the  austerity  measures   possible  without                                                                   
reducing services. Representative  Hawker said he would await                                                                   
the subcommittee's opinion.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:13:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section Public Safety                                                                                                           
      Council on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This request would provide funding to maintain the                                                                         
     operation of the Kotzebue domestic violence shelter.                                                                       
     Program previously funded by a HSS grant that has since                                                                    
     been determined to be an unallowable use of federal                                                                        
     funds.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY, explained that  Section 7 would                                                                   
appropriate $350 thousand in general  funds to the Council on                                                                   
Domestic Council on Domestic Violence  and Sexual Assault for                                                                   
the Kotzebue shelter. He explained  that the Kotzebue shelter                                                                   
was not eligible for pass through  funding from Department of                                                                   
Health  and Social  Services. This  is a request  for FY  06.                                                                   
Funding is requested in the FY  07 budget. In FY 08, it would                                                                   
roll into the competitive grants process.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
In  response to  a question  by  Representative Stoltze,  Mr.                                                                   
Spencer responded that the figure  may have been revised, but                                                                   
that  the  figure  is  the  estimated  cost  of  running  the                                                                   
shelter.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked  if federal  money  is  involved.  Mr.                                                                   
Spencer responded that this does  not affect federal funding.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   questioned  why  the   shelter  fell                                                                   
outside  of  the   Health  and  Social  Services   grant.  He                                                                   
questioned the  original intent for  funding and asked  if it                                                                   
were  a federal  shift  to  general  funds. Mr.  Spencer  was                                                                   
unable to respond.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:17:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule  observed that the intent  is to prevent                                                                   
a break in service.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:17:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section Revenue    APFC Operations                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      Gas line Investment Determination Costs                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BOB BARTHOLOMEW,  CHIEF OPERATING  OFFICER, ALASKA  PERMANENT                                                                   
FUND  CORPORATION,  DEPARTMENT   OF  REVENUE,  spoke  to  the                                                                   
request  for  $550 thousand  in  Permanent  Fund  Corporation                                                                   
receipts for review and analysis  of the gas line investment.                                                                   
The Corporation has requested  the funds, which would be paid                                                                   
by  income from  the  investments in  the  form of  corporate                                                                   
receipts. He  acknowledged the  difficulty in estimating  the                                                                   
cost of a complete analysis of  a potential investment, since                                                                   
no  agreement has  been  reached between  the  State and  the                                                                   
producers.  The estimate is  based on  two phases.  Phase one                                                                   
would  provide  education  for the  Board  on  infrastructure                                                                   
investment. The Permanent  Fund has not yet  invested in this                                                                   
asset class. The Department would  like to hire an investment                                                                   
advisor.  This  cost would  be  considerably  less than  $550                                                                   
thousand,  but  additional  funds  would be  required  if  an                                                                   
agreement is  reached, for  cost estimates from  contractors.                                                                   
Part of this work would carry  over into FY 07. Anything that                                                                   
is not expended would remain in  the Permanent Fund. The item                                                                   
is in the fast  track supplemental because in FY  06 there is                                                                   
$300 thousand  for pre-investment fiduciary work  (to look at                                                                   
the facts  behind the investment).  The Corporation  has made                                                                   
an offer on a large real estate  operating company, which has                                                                   
already expended  the money  in pre-investment analysis.  The                                                                   
$300,000 would  be added  to the cost  of the investment  and                                                                   
freed  up if  the  project goes  through.  It  would then  be                                                                   
available  for another  due diligence  project. However,  the                                                                   
Corporation wants  the funds to  be available before  the end                                                                   
of March so that the Board can begin its education.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:23:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze referred  to  legislation enacted  in                                                                   
the  previous  year,  which  removed   limits  on  investment                                                                   
opportunities. He  questioned if the legislation  was related                                                                   
to the gas  line investments. Mr. Bartholomew  concluded that                                                                   
the Corporation  had sufficient  authority  to invest  in the                                                                   
gas  pipeline  prior to  the  enactment of  the  legislation,                                                                   
which expanded  their alternative investment  authority. [The                                                                   
gas  pipe  line  project would  falls  into  the  alternative                                                                   
investments  category.]  He  explained   that  prior  to  the                                                                   
legislation; the  Corporation could  invest up to  10 percent                                                                   
in alternative  investments, or $3  billion. At the  time the                                                                   
legislation   was  enacted  2   percent  was  invested.   The                                                                   
legislation regarding  the gas pipeline provides for  up to a                                                                   
20 percent  state investment, half  of which would  come from                                                                   
the  Permanent Fund,  resulting  in a  $2.0  to $2.5  billion                                                                   
investment.   The  cash   portion  of   the  Permanent   Fund                                                                   
investment would  be $500 million or  1.5 - 2 percent  of the                                                                   
Fund,  which falls  within  the previous  authorization.  The                                                                   
Board felt it would be prudent  to expand this authorization.                                                                   
Expansion  of the alternative  investment authorization  does                                                                   
not have  a direct effect on  whether there is  an investment                                                                   
in a  gas pipeline;  it only determines  the percentage  that                                                                   
can  be  invested.  The  current  allocation,  excluding  the                                                                   
pipeline, is 8 percent [in alternative  investments]. The gas                                                                   
pipeline  would  bring  the  total  investment  close  to  10                                                                   
percent. He  estimated that  the limit  would not be  reached                                                                   
for several years.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze asked where  the initiative came from.                                                                   
Mr. Bartholomew  replied that,  while the Board  has remained                                                                   
neutral,  there  has  been  a   general  interest  in  owning                                                                   
infrastructure. The  Commissioner of Department  of Revenue's                                                                   
designee  approached  the  Board  with  the  issue  of  State                                                                   
ownership of the gas pipe line.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch noted that  nothing will  happen on                                                                   
the  gas pipeline  negation unless  the  legislature makes  a                                                                   
change to the oil tax structure,  which would not occur until                                                                   
later in the  session. He questioned why the  item was placed                                                                   
in the supplemental.  Mr. Bartholomew responded  that without                                                                   
the supplemental  an  advisor to  the Board  would not  be in                                                                   
place and education of the Board would not begin.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  questioned   if  the  Corporation  is                                                                   
looking   for  a   courtesy  legislative   endorsement.   Mr.                                                                   
Bartholomew  acknowledged  that   the  Corporation  does  not                                                                   
historically come  to the legislature regarding  investments,                                                                   
but added that  they would not want to take  on an investment                                                                   
if the budgetary  resources to cover them did  not exist. The                                                                   
Board wants  to mitigate the risk  of entering into  too many                                                                   
contracts and is  sensitive to the legislature's  view on the                                                                   
matter. Representative Hawker  summarized that the Department                                                                   
has the authority [to make the investment].                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker asked  if  the investment  would be  a                                                                   
direct equity  holding or be held  in debt securities  of the                                                                   
entities  that own  the pipeline.  Mr. Bartholomew  responded                                                                   
that there  are many scenarios  possible. He discussed  a LLC                                                                   
scenario. The ownership would  be in a holding company, which                                                                   
would own the  pipeline. The Corporation could  invest in the                                                                   
entity or own a percentage of  the company. It would probably                                                                   
be a regulated  investment and return.  Representative Hawker                                                                   
pointed  out  that there  is  a  huge difference  between  an                                                                   
equity investment and an investment  in the debt of an entity                                                                   
that  has  an  equity  investment.   He  inquired  about  the                                                                   
downsize risks.  Mr. Bartholomew explained that  debt is more                                                                   
secure and more  set; equity ownership would  contain greater                                                                   
risks,  while the  return would  be higher.  He stressed  the                                                                   
desire to  have an independent  and experienced  advisor look                                                                   
at the risks.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker questioned  if all  the components  of                                                                   
risk would be contemplated.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bartholomew  affirmed and noted  that the scope  would be                                                                   
indicated by the proposal. The  advisor could provide support                                                                   
in negotiation  and drafting terms,  but he assumed  that the                                                                   
investors would provide a proposal  and the proposal would be                                                                   
evaluated  to see  if it  is an  appropriate investment.  The                                                                   
bulk of  the analysis  would be the  deal brought  forward to                                                                   
the legislature and evaluated by the Corporation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  asked if the funding would  be used to                                                                   
evaluate a  particular structure  versus the Permanent  Fund,                                                                   
or strictly to evaluate one proposal.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bartholomew  understood that there would  be one proposal                                                                   
put together,  which the Corporation  would evaluate  from an                                                                   
institutional  fund  perspective.  The Corporation  does  not                                                                   
intend to take a broader look.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  thought  the authorization  would  be                                                                   
premature because the State does  not know if there will be a                                                                   
gas line proposal anytime in the near future.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bartholomew agreed  that they did not want  to expend the                                                                   
funds  prematurely, but  emphasized  that they  wanted to  be                                                                   
prepared for the  education piece. The remaining  funds would                                                                   
not be spent until there was an agreement.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch commented that  it does not  take a                                                                   
lot of money for a consultant  to provide the information. He                                                                   
thought  the request  was premature.  He asked  if there  was                                                                   
pressure from the Executive Branch.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bartholomew replied  that it is a "catch 22".  If they do                                                                   
not go forward  with education on the asset  class, they will                                                                   
be under  greater pressure  when a  proposal comes  forth. He                                                                   
emphasized that  the education  would be valuable  regardless                                                                   
of investment in a gas pipeline.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:43:37 PM                                                                                                                    

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